Important
Please let me know if you find still-in-print records on this blog.
(I'll remove download links from this blog)
And if so, please let me know the links for buying CDs.
Anne Lister said...
It’s come to my attention that you have again made the Anonyma album available for download from your blog spot.
I hope you realise this is illegal, that it does no good at all to the artists and that it’s theft?
If you are a fan, surely you should be trying to help the artists you like, instead of ripping off their work and making it available to complete strangers? Without the money from recordings the artists and most folk labels simply can’t afford to record new material – is this what you want? Are you under the impression the folk world is full of rich performers and prosperous record labels? If so, take a reality check.
I also hear you have made the Nic Jones album available – this is so far from being helpful it’s ridiculous. The Nic Jones albums were put out there to raise money for Nic himself, who has been unable to make a living from his music following a serious car crash in the 80s.
If I, as a copyright holder, decide to make some of my music available for free download, that’s my choice. If you do it it’s simply abuse of copyright material and it’s theft. If you like the material on “Burnt Feathers”, by all means put a link to my site or Mary McLaughlin’s site and show your appreciation that way.
I will contact the legal authorities here. I have also informed other musicians whose property you have been stealing.
http://www.annelister.com/
Additional comment from Anne Lister:
Thank you for responding so quickly to my email.
Kevin Scott may well have had album sales as a result of your action – I already have my albums available via several sites for people to hear and to purchase by download or physical copies if they choose. The issue with Burnt Feathers is a different one – the copyright belongs to the label, Fellside, and not to me or to Mary McLaughlin. We are unable legally to offer downloads or to duplicate this album, so it is all the more unlikely that they would be happy for you to be offering it on your site.
As to saying that people want to hear the music before purchasing it – there are many ways this can happen without offering free downloads without the knowledge or permission of the owners of the material.
I appreciate you are doing this because you want to increase fans for the music, but this isn’t the way to do it. ALL albums are copyright material – either copyright to the label or copyright to the artists. This is because they have invested money and time and talent in the recording and need to recoup some of the money spent out in order to continue to make music. Folk music is not a major part of the entertainment industry and I don’t know of anyone who has made much money out of recordings, so you are not helping if you give something away for free. There have been recent high-profile cases where people doing what you’ve been doing have been prosecuted and face massive fines as a result.
The main point, however, is that you need to have the copyright holder’s permission before you give away their property. Mary McLaughlin, Nic Jones, The Copper Family and others are all easy to find via Google and you could email them and check whether they want you to put links to Rapidshare. If, like Kevin Scott, they’re happy about it then there’s no issue. But you do need to ask and be prepared for people to say no.
Mary McLaughlin and I have a reunion tour this summer. I will ask from the stage whether anyone is at the gig as a result of your blog – I would be surprised, frankly.
Anne Lister
Let's go to their reunion tour!
August 7th: Cardiff Millennium Centre FREE – at 6.15 pm at the Glanfa Foyer
August 12th-15th Solo and together at the Broadstairs Folk Festival, Kent.
August 15th: Walthamstow Folk – special summer show at the Plough, London E17
August 19th: Llantrisant Folk Club at the Windsor Arms, Pontyclun
August 21st: concert at St Thomas’ Church Hall, St Dogmael’s, Cardigan
August 22nd: Mary - Irish Gaelic at St Thomas’ Church Hall.
August 23rd: Bude folk club at the Falcon, Bude.
August 29th I’m appearing solo at Faldingworth Live! Lincolnshire
October 9th at Orpington Friday Folk Club, Kent
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Dick Miles said...
you have mylp cheating the tide , avialable on your site . pls remove it.>thanks DickMiles http://www.dickmiles.com
Dick Miles on THTM (D/L link removed)
(I'll remove download links from this blog)
And if so, please let me know the links for buying CDs.
Anne Lister said...
It’s come to my attention that you have again made the Anonyma album available for download from your blog spot.
I hope you realise this is illegal, that it does no good at all to the artists and that it’s theft?
If you are a fan, surely you should be trying to help the artists you like, instead of ripping off their work and making it available to complete strangers? Without the money from recordings the artists and most folk labels simply can’t afford to record new material – is this what you want? Are you under the impression the folk world is full of rich performers and prosperous record labels? If so, take a reality check.
I also hear you have made the Nic Jones album available – this is so far from being helpful it’s ridiculous. The Nic Jones albums were put out there to raise money for Nic himself, who has been unable to make a living from his music following a serious car crash in the 80s.
If I, as a copyright holder, decide to make some of my music available for free download, that’s my choice. If you do it it’s simply abuse of copyright material and it’s theft. If you like the material on “Burnt Feathers”, by all means put a link to my site or Mary McLaughlin’s site and show your appreciation that way.
I will contact the legal authorities here. I have also informed other musicians whose property you have been stealing.
http://www.annelister.com/
Additional comment from Anne Lister:
Thank you for responding so quickly to my email.
Kevin Scott may well have had album sales as a result of your action – I already have my albums available via several sites for people to hear and to purchase by download or physical copies if they choose. The issue with Burnt Feathers is a different one – the copyright belongs to the label, Fellside, and not to me or to Mary McLaughlin. We are unable legally to offer downloads or to duplicate this album, so it is all the more unlikely that they would be happy for you to be offering it on your site.
As to saying that people want to hear the music before purchasing it – there are many ways this can happen without offering free downloads without the knowledge or permission of the owners of the material.
I appreciate you are doing this because you want to increase fans for the music, but this isn’t the way to do it. ALL albums are copyright material – either copyright to the label or copyright to the artists. This is because they have invested money and time and talent in the recording and need to recoup some of the money spent out in order to continue to make music. Folk music is not a major part of the entertainment industry and I don’t know of anyone who has made much money out of recordings, so you are not helping if you give something away for free. There have been recent high-profile cases where people doing what you’ve been doing have been prosecuted and face massive fines as a result.
The main point, however, is that you need to have the copyright holder’s permission before you give away their property. Mary McLaughlin, Nic Jones, The Copper Family and others are all easy to find via Google and you could email them and check whether they want you to put links to Rapidshare. If, like Kevin Scott, they’re happy about it then there’s no issue. But you do need to ask and be prepared for people to say no.
Mary McLaughlin and I have a reunion tour this summer. I will ask from the stage whether anyone is at the gig as a result of your blog – I would be surprised, frankly.
Anne Lister
Let's go to their reunion tour!
August 7th: Cardiff Millennium Centre FREE – at 6.15 pm at the Glanfa Foyer
August 12th-15th Solo and together at the Broadstairs Folk Festival, Kent.
August 15th: Walthamstow Folk – special summer show at the Plough, London E17
August 19th: Llantrisant Folk Club at the Windsor Arms, Pontyclun
August 21st: concert at St Thomas’ Church Hall, St Dogmael’s, Cardigan
August 22nd: Mary - Irish Gaelic at St Thomas’ Church Hall.
August 23rd: Bude folk club at the Falcon, Bude.
August 29th I’m appearing solo at Faldingworth Live! Lincolnshire
October 9th at Orpington Friday Folk Club, Kent
//
Dick Miles said...
you have mylp cheating the tide , avialable on your site . pls remove it.>thanks DickMiles http://www.dickmiles.com
Dick Miles on THTM (D/L link removed)
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